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		<title>By: FoolsGold</title>
		<link>http://www.grahamlawyerblog.com/2009/11/30/issue-of-demeanor-raised-in-amanda-knox-case/#comment-32194</link>
		<dc:creator>FoolsGold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even in the USA we have a great many people who base decisions on post-crime demeanor. Usually the questioned behavior is considered indicative of guilt. Wore a blue dress, looked at her husband, wore a red dress, didn&#039;t look at her husband, it makes no difference. A belief in guilt is the starting point and it really does not matter what particular cloud formations from the crystal ball are used as evidence. It is not only tabloid readers but often includes prosecutors. 

The statements about trust in any aspect of the legal system are absurd. Italian trials are more theater than anything else. Quite frankly, I&#039;m not all that impressed by American trials or American interrogations. 

The victim&#039;s family is wealthy and maintains a website that will brook no criticism of the prosecutor or statements condemning the lack of evidence. The tabloid editors surely know that lurid details sell papers and gain television ratings. The editors also know that the falsity of those lurid details is not relevant.

I don&#039;t think Italian law embraces the concept of spoliation of evidence so it seems irrelevant that the Italian authorities erased Amanda&#039;s computer drive. I don&#039;t think an Italian jury is permitted to conclude that the hard drive would have revealed friendly emails between the two girls. It seems the tabloid editors don&#039;t want to even speculate on that issue much less reach conclusions about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even in the USA we have a great many people who base decisions on post-crime demeanor. Usually the questioned behavior is considered indicative of guilt. Wore a blue dress, looked at her husband, wore a red dress, didn&#8217;t look at her husband, it makes no difference. A belief in guilt is the starting point and it really does not matter what particular cloud formations from the crystal ball are used as evidence. It is not only tabloid readers but often includes prosecutors. </p>
<p>The statements about trust in any aspect of the legal system are absurd. Italian trials are more theater than anything else. Quite frankly, I&#8217;m not all that impressed by American trials or American interrogations. </p>
<p>The victim&#8217;s family is wealthy and maintains a website that will brook no criticism of the prosecutor or statements condemning the lack of evidence. The tabloid editors surely know that lurid details sell papers and gain television ratings. The editors also know that the falsity of those lurid details is not relevant.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Italian law embraces the concept of spoliation of evidence so it seems irrelevant that the Italian authorities erased Amanda&#8217;s computer drive. I don&#8217;t think an Italian jury is permitted to conclude that the hard drive would have revealed friendly emails between the two girls. It seems the tabloid editors don&#8217;t want to even speculate on that issue much less reach conclusions about it.</p>
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		<title>By: cliff</title>
		<link>http://www.grahamlawyerblog.com/2009/11/30/issue-of-demeanor-raised-in-amanda-knox-case/#comment-28655</link>
		<dc:creator>cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What may have happened is that there may have been a need to conceal, not the murder of Meredith Kercher, but something else – for instance, substance abuse - which may have incriminated them and thus compelled Amanda and Raffaele to fabricate accounts of what happened on the night and immediately after the murder.  On realising that they are now being charged with something much graver than what they attempted to cover up, they fabricate a new story to cover-up both which, of course, is now barely credible.  Finally, desperate and abandoning the attempt to cover up the suggested “relatively minor misdemeanour”, they have a story, which is probably closest to the truth, but with no credibility at all.

Understandably, the long-suffering court has had to sit patiently through the pitching of these fabrications and now, becoming short on patience, they refuse to listen any further.  It should be obvious that once caught lying, there is very little sympathy for the liar even if he now tells the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What may have happened is that there may have been a need to conceal, not the murder of Meredith Kercher, but something else – for instance, substance abuse &#8211; which may have incriminated them and thus compelled Amanda and Raffaele to fabricate accounts of what happened on the night and immediately after the murder.  On realising that they are now being charged with something much graver than what they attempted to cover up, they fabricate a new story to cover-up both which, of course, is now barely credible.  Finally, desperate and abandoning the attempt to cover up the suggested “relatively minor misdemeanour”, they have a story, which is probably closest to the truth, but with no credibility at all.</p>
<p>Understandably, the long-suffering court has had to sit patiently through the pitching of these fabrications and now, becoming short on patience, they refuse to listen any further.  It should be obvious that once caught lying, there is very little sympathy for the liar even if he now tells the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Evergreen</title>
		<link>http://www.grahamlawyerblog.com/2009/11/30/issue-of-demeanor-raised-in-amanda-knox-case/#comment-153</link>
		<dc:creator>Evergreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 01:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Latest developments having the appeals being filed, not just by the defense, but the prosecution going double for nothing, appealing the sentence. Although I thought the original prosecutor would be removed by now, with his conviction as well. He is appealing his own conviction as well. I hope the defense at least gets the third party independent review of the DNA evidence that they were trying to get in the trial, during the appeal. DNA has managed to free the innocent and convict the guilty, but the way the evidence was collected and handled, it may cast doubt on it&#039;s effectiveness.

Sometimes I wonder if some anti-American issues got into this trial, but probably not one that I was thinking of. I doubt the prosecutor even heard of the Fort Lawton incident during WWII, where Italian POWs were held.(The Army re-opened the case a few years ago, reversed a few convictions and upgraded discharges of the remaining soldiers to honorable). The African American soldiers accused of the murder, were accused of doing it out of jealousy, supposedly. They felt the POWs were getting better treatment than they were. Although I usually when I type the above info in a comment, then delete it, erring on the side of caution, and that it is a mere coincidence, and not relevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Latest developments having the appeals being filed, not just by the defense, but the prosecution going double for nothing, appealing the sentence. Although I thought the original prosecutor would be removed by now, with his conviction as well. He is appealing his own conviction as well. I hope the defense at least gets the third party independent review of the DNA evidence that they were trying to get in the trial, during the appeal. DNA has managed to free the innocent and convict the guilty, but the way the evidence was collected and handled, it may cast doubt on it&#8217;s effectiveness.</p>
<p>Sometimes I wonder if some anti-American issues got into this trial, but probably not one that I was thinking of. I doubt the prosecutor even heard of the Fort Lawton incident during WWII, where Italian POWs were held.(The Army re-opened the case a few years ago, reversed a few convictions and upgraded discharges of the remaining soldiers to honorable). The African American soldiers accused of the murder, were accused of doing it out of jealousy, supposedly. They felt the POWs were getting better treatment than they were. Although I usually when I type the above info in a comment, then delete it, erring on the side of caution, and that it is a mere coincidence, and not relevant.</p>
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		<title>By: may doveaston</title>
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		<dc:creator>may doveaston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 12:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito are innocent people and have been wrongfully convicted of this terrible crime. They should be free and exonerated as soon as
possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito are innocent people and have been wrongfully convicted of this terrible crime. They should be free and exonerated as soon as<br />
possible.</p>
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		<title>By: may doveaston</title>
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		<dc:creator>may doveaston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 12:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bright young honor student with a reputation for kindness and honesty goes off to study in Italy and overnight turns into a vicious murderer and liar? I’m skeptical. Seems hard to believe without some real proof. I looked all over the net for proof and didn’t find it. Found lots of slurs and allegations but all of it shown to be untrue or reasonably refuted. I’m firmly convinced she is innocent. Now someone has collected the information and posted it here:
http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/
injustice in perugia . org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bright young honor student with a reputation for kindness and honesty goes off to study in Italy and overnight turns into a vicious murderer and liar? I’m skeptical. Seems hard to believe without some real proof. I looked all over the net for proof and didn’t find it. Found lots of slurs and allegations but all of it shown to be untrue or reasonably refuted. I’m firmly convinced she is innocent. Now someone has collected the information and posted it here:<br />
<a href="http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/</a><br />
injustice in perugia . org</p>
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		<title>By: kittwaters</title>
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		<dc:creator>kittwaters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 12:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bright young honor student with a reputation for kindness and honesty goes off to study in Italy and overnight turns into a vicious murderer and liar? I’m skeptical. Seems hard to believe without some real proof. I looked all over the net for proof and didn’t find it. Found lots of slurs and allegations but all of it shown to be untrue or reasonably refuted. I’m firmly convinced she is innocent. Now someone has collected the information and posted it here:
http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/
injustice in perugia . org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bright young honor student with a reputation for kindness and honesty goes off to study in Italy and overnight turns into a vicious murderer and liar? I’m skeptical. Seems hard to believe without some real proof. I looked all over the net for proof and didn’t find it. Found lots of slurs and allegations but all of it shown to be untrue or reasonably refuted. I’m firmly convinced she is innocent. Now someone has collected the information and posted it here:<br />
<a href="http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/</a><br />
injustice in perugia . org</p>
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		<title>By: kitt waters</title>
		<link>http://www.grahamlawyerblog.com/2009/11/30/issue-of-demeanor-raised-in-amanda-knox-case/#comment-149</link>
		<dc:creator>kitt waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you think Amanda Knox is guilty, then why? Because you heard someone say so? Because you accepted without questioning some myth about a cartwheel or accusing an innocent man? (Not true.) If the information you heard is wrong, then so is your conclusion. If she was your daughter/sister/friend, wouldn’t you want people to listen to both sides of the story before deciding?
http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/
injustice in perugia . org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think Amanda Knox is guilty, then why? Because you heard someone say so? Because you accepted without questioning some myth about a cartwheel or accusing an innocent man? (Not true.) If the information you heard is wrong, then so is your conclusion. If she was your daughter/sister/friend, wouldn’t you want people to listen to both sides of the story before deciding?<br />
<a href="http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.injusticeinperugia.org/</a><br />
injustice in perugia . org</p>
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		<title>By: Ron L Siva</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron L Siva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 03:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in complete agreement with your article. Thank you for writing it. Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito are innocent. There is no credible evidence linking them to the murder. Many people put on their guilt glasses and looked at Amanda and Raffaele through accusing lenses— distorting and misinterpreting the pair&#039;s behavior. And the prosecution heaped false statements and evidence on Amanda and Raffaele. How heartbreaking for their parents. No human being of any nationality should be wrongfully convicted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in complete agreement with your article. Thank you for writing it. Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito are innocent. There is no credible evidence linking them to the murder. Many people put on their guilt glasses and looked at Amanda and Raffaele through accusing lenses— distorting and misinterpreting the pair&#8217;s behavior. And the prosecution heaped false statements and evidence on Amanda and Raffaele. How heartbreaking for their parents. No human being of any nationality should be wrongfully convicted.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no evidence of Amanda and Raffaele at the scene of the crime because they weren&#039;t there!

Look into this and research it.  Two innocent people&#039;s lives are being destroyed.  Would you want to be convicted using a piece of Low-Copy number DNA &quot;evidence&quot;?  Ask yourself that.

Please visit www.sciencespheres.org for more facts about this case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no evidence of Amanda and Raffaele at the scene of the crime because they weren&#8217;t there!</p>
<p>Look into this and research it.  Two innocent people&#8217;s lives are being destroyed.  Would you want to be convicted using a piece of Low-Copy number DNA &#8220;evidence&#8221;?  Ask yourself that.</p>
<p>Please visit <a href="http://www.sciencespheres.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencespheres.org</a> for more facts about this case.</p>
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		<title>By: Evergreen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evergreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 09:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ranier Alexander, had the tabloid side of the press not focussed in on the details that they got from the investigators, they may have had some sympathetic articles run, if they had known more about her background. She was from West Seattle, but not her father. He was a Vashon High School graduate, as in Vashon  Island. Vashon Islanders are connected to Seattle and Tacoma via ferry, but are a world away and an independent lot. I found this article in the Vashon/Maury island Beachcomber, and admire the webmaster&#039;s diligence on it. I was observing the comments on it, within the first few hours, one guy responded to three of the positive commenters, but those 3 responses to the response were taken down in a matter of hours(They did allow one critical comment to stand). Plus, the article was focused originally on a class reunion Mr. Knox had, and his classmates coming to his help, mainly with his immediate problems here at home. Not all of those responding to the article were islanders, though. Plus on the downside, the father&#039;s background would have probably played into the picture the tabloids were painting.

http://www.pnwlocalnews.com/vashon/vib/news/83913432.html

One concern on this case, is the appeal. Since Mingnini&#039;s conviction, I heard one story on Ray Turner&#039;s blog, that the list of those that have been sued for slander/defamation by Mignini has grown, to include Luciano Ghirga and Luca Maori. I wondered if that would affact the appeal, if the attorneys for Knox and Sollecito could handle that and being charged themselves, but then again, I remembered that Ms.Knox was convicted while the prosecutor was on trial himself. Probably just grandstanding by the prosecution.

http://knoxarchives.blogspot.com/2010/02/another-giuliano-mignini-defamation.html

Probably just have to wait and see how that happens. Also, Donald Trump&#039;s idea of a boycott would not work these days, you can&#039;t know what all was made in one place or another these days. Not to say that he should not do what he can, but for him, doing something behind the scenes probably would not happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ranier Alexander, had the tabloid side of the press not focussed in on the details that they got from the investigators, they may have had some sympathetic articles run, if they had known more about her background. She was from West Seattle, but not her father. He was a Vashon High School graduate, as in Vashon  Island. Vashon Islanders are connected to Seattle and Tacoma via ferry, but are a world away and an independent lot. I found this article in the Vashon/Maury island Beachcomber, and admire the webmaster&#8217;s diligence on it. I was observing the comments on it, within the first few hours, one guy responded to three of the positive commenters, but those 3 responses to the response were taken down in a matter of hours(They did allow one critical comment to stand). Plus, the article was focused originally on a class reunion Mr. Knox had, and his classmates coming to his help, mainly with his immediate problems here at home. Not all of those responding to the article were islanders, though. Plus on the downside, the father&#8217;s background would have probably played into the picture the tabloids were painting.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pnwlocalnews.com/vashon/vib/news/83913432.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pnwlocalnews.com/vashon/vib/news/83913432.html</a></p>
<p>One concern on this case, is the appeal. Since Mingnini&#8217;s conviction, I heard one story on Ray Turner&#8217;s blog, that the list of those that have been sued for slander/defamation by Mignini has grown, to include Luciano Ghirga and Luca Maori. I wondered if that would affact the appeal, if the attorneys for Knox and Sollecito could handle that and being charged themselves, but then again, I remembered that Ms.Knox was convicted while the prosecutor was on trial himself. Probably just grandstanding by the prosecution.</p>
<p><a href="http://knoxarchives.blogspot.com/2010/02/another-giuliano-mignini-defamation.html" rel="nofollow">http://knoxarchives.blogspot.com/2010/02/another-giuliano-mignini-defamation.html</a></p>
<p>Probably just have to wait and see how that happens. Also, Donald Trump&#8217;s idea of a boycott would not work these days, you can&#8217;t know what all was made in one place or another these days. Not to say that he should not do what he can, but for him, doing something behind the scenes probably would not happen.</p>
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